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3rd-Nov-2002 07:33 pm
Halloween 2008- Captain Hammer
I stopped by Best Buy on the way to monstersocks' parents' house for dinner. I played around with the new Palm Tungsten T and the Sony PEG-NR70V. They didn't have a Sony CLIE PEG-NX70V even though it was in the ad. The Tungsten looks really good with much better fonts than the NR70V. It also has built in bluetooth and a cool collapsing design. The Sony models have built-in digital cameras and keyboards hidden within the swivel design. Sony's Palm devices are really cool, but they've pretty much completely ignored the Mac market. If I buy one for myself I can also get a pretty good deal on it with my Sony card.

Anyway, I got home from dinner earlier than usual and did some cleaning. Took out the trash and recycling and did some vacuuming. I even got my lunch made for tomorrow and got my stuff ready for the gym. I'm hoping to do some cleaning in the living room but I hear Vice City calling me...
3rd-Nov-2002 07:08 pm (UTC)
I played with a Tungsten T at an Office Depot yesterday (nice color and not near as mushy of a screen as the Sony's, but more than my III-series) -- had only the standard apps on it...nothing that would show me any reason to want to pay that much more for one (mebbe Best Buy has 'em set up better). I'm hoping the 515's price'll come down further soon, tho (that or the Treo 90).
3rd-Nov-2002 10:48 pm (UTC)
The 515 is okay but it still has the 160x160 screen. I haven't yet seen a PalmOS device with a color 160x160 screen that I like.

Sadly Best Buy doesn't have any additional software on the Tungstens either. I was really impressed with Palm's new hi-res fonts. They're much nicer than Sony's hi-res fonts. I'd like to see if the new Sony units have Palm's fonts.

The Sonys have more built-in software to show off their screens, partially due to having the built-in camera.
4th-Nov-2002 11:02 am (UTC)
From today's dealmac:

Palm m515 for $230 after rebate  9:02 am
CompUSA.com offers the Palm m515 digital assistant for $279.99. That's $70 off and already tied for the best price we could find. Palm's $50 mail-in rebate slashes the net price to $229.99. The m515 features a color screen, 16MB of memory, expansion card slot, and USB connectivity. Rebate ends February 3, 2003.  
4th-Nov-2002 11:08 am (UTC)

I have a friend who works (worked?) at Palm, but I never found a palm I liked as much as the CLIEs. I think it may be time to do some shopping.
4th-Nov-2002 08:54 pm (UTC)
Thanks. That's slightly better than Amazon's current offer ($450 with $50 rebate). I stopped by CompUSA after the gym tonight and took a look around. They had the NX and NR units.

The new models are definitely faster than the old ones. The screen doesn't flicker when switching between things and more of the built-in apps are optimized for the taller screen.

The Tungsten is sooo much smaller than the Clie (and smaller than my Visor Neo.)

A Clie plus Bluetooth and without the built-in keyboard would be my ideal PalmOS device right now (removing the keyboard would probably make it shorter).

I'm a little surprised you'd consider a Palm device. You seem more like a PocketPC person.
5th-Nov-2002 06:16 am (UTC)
Interesting. I did some comparisons a while back, but haven't kept up. My biggest beef with Palm at the time was that they didn't do much with sound and the CLIEs were new and pricey. I suppose I could get an MP3 player, or start lugging my CD player around if it meant that much to me, but I would still want a handheld for jotting notes, playing games, reading books/tutorials, etc. I still rely on good ol' paper and ink, which is perfectly fine 95% of the time.
5th-Nov-2002 08:30 am (UTC)
The Tungsten will (supposedly) get real music capabilities when they release RealPlayer for it (and I'm sure there will be third party MP3 players soon enough). The Tungsten also uses SD cards unlike the Clie which uses Memory Sticks. I'd prefer SD over Memory Sticks since lots of companies support SD and only Sony uses Memory Sticks. Battery life also seems like it could be a real issue using a PDA as an MP3 player.

I always said I didn't care about playing music on my PDA since I wouldn't take my PDA to the gym for working out or whatever. I had a cheap little $100 MP3 Player that I used and I figured it wasn't too big a deal if it broke or something. Now I have an iPod which cost more than the Tungsten, but it's also a much better MP3 player than any PDA could ever be. It's smaller than a Clie and it holds almost every CD I own. The iPod now has some PDA features too but they're all view only- you can't actually enter data.

(And there's now a PC iPod.)
5th-Nov-2002 08:42 am (UTC)
The iPod is really tempting, and would solve the whole "who took that CD in to work" issue. When I take the plunge, I'll probably get the iPod and a basic PDA. Two gadgets instead of one, but with better results. I also like SD cards, and some of the items you can purchase in that format. We're planning a massive trip next year, and it would be great to have electronic travel guides instead of bulky books (and to have that much music on an iPod). I would want to set up my computer to record NPR for an hour before I wake up so I can download it to an MP3 player for my commute, but I have the software for that already. Radio reception ain't so good when you are traveling underground. It's a shame that the iPod doesn't have a recording option, but I suppose it can't have everything
5th-Nov-2002 10:39 am (UTC)
A few of the iPod's competitors offer recording, but none of its competitors that have similar capacity are close to the same size. They mostly use laptop hard drives instead of the extremely small iPod drive.
That NPR idea is pretty interesting.
5th-Nov-2002 10:52 am (UTC)
I've seen some of the recording units, some even have a radio tuner, but their capacity is dinky. I have a program that can record anything going through my soundcard, and it's programmable so I could set it to record a certain time segment which is darned nifty. :) I could concievably start listening to the news, This American Life, etc, which I haven't done in a while. I think I need to look into this a bit more. The holidays are coming up....
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